iMac Pro zeer sloom !
29 september 2020 - 20:03   
geplaatst door: McHenri
Strandballen, zeer trage werking.
Is vanavond begonnen.
Uit zich voorlopig in "berichten" en "Safari".
Mogelijk nog andere die ik nog niet getest heb.

Heb nu net nog de laatste update gedaan, maar dat bracht ook geen soelaas.

EtreCheck report :

EtreCheck version: 5.6.1 (5217)
Report generated: 2020-09-29 19:59:36
Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com
Runtime: 2:13
Performance: Excellent
Sandbox: Enabled
Full drive access: Disabled

Problem: Beachballing

Major Issues:
  Anything that appears on this list needs immediate attention.
  Runaway process - A process is using a large percentage of your CPU.
  Heavy CPU usage - Some processes are using an unusually high amount of CPU.

Minor Issues:
  These issues do not need immediate attention but they may indicate future problems or opportunities for improvement.
  Heavy RAM usage - Apps are using a large amount of RAM.
  System modifications - There are a large number of system modifications running in the background.
  Runaway user process - A user process is using a large percentage of your CPU.
  Heavy I/O usage - Your system is under heavy I/O use. This will reduce your performance.
  32-bit Apps - This computer has 32-bits apps will not work on current versions of the operating system.
  Limited drive access - More information may be available with Full Drive Access.
  Kernel extensions present - This computer has kernel extensions that may not work in the future.

Hardware Information:
  iMac Pro (2017)
  iMac Pro Model: iMacPro1,1
  3,2 GHz 8-Core Intel Xeon W (W-2140B) CPU: 8-core
  32 RAM - Not upgradeable

Video Information:
  Radeon Pro Vega 56 - VRAM: 8 GB
    iMac (built-in) 5120 x 2880

Drives:
  disk0 - APPLE SSD AP1024M 1.00 TB (Solid State - TRIM: Yes)
  Internal PCI-Express 8.0 GT/s x4 NVM Express
    disk0s1 - EFI [EFI] 315 MB
    disk0s2 [APFS Container] 1.00 TB
      disk1 [APFS Virtual drive] 1.00 TB (Shared by 5 volumes)
        disk1s1 - M*********************s (APFS) [APFS Virtual drive] (Shared - 347.83 GB used)
        disk1s2 - Preboot (APFS) [APFS Preboot] (Shared)
        disk1s3 - Recovery (APFS) [Recovery] (Shared)
        disk1s4 - VM (APFS) [APFS VM] (Shared - 20 KB used)
        disk1s5 - Macintosh HD (APFS) (Shared - 11.25 GB used)

  disk2 - SanDisk SSD U100 256GB 256.06 GB (Solid State - TRIM: No)
  External SATA
    disk2s1 - EFI (MS-DOS FAT32) [EFI] 210 MB
    disk2s2 255.72 GB
    disk2s3 - Boot OS X (Journaled HFS+) 134 MB

  disk3 - SanDisk SSD U100 256GB 256.06 GB (Solid State - TRIM: No)
  External Thunderbolt 6 Gigabit Serial ATA
    disk3s1 - EFI (MS-DOS FAT32) [EFI] 210 MB
    disk3s2 255.72 GB
    disk3s3 - Boot OS X (Journaled HFS+) 134 MB

  disk4 - SanDisk SSD U100 256GB 511.43 GB (Solid State - TRIM: No)
  External Thunderbolt 6 Gigabit Serial ATA

  disk5 - ST4000NE0025-2EW107 4.00 TB (Mechanical - 7200 RPM)
  External Thunderbolt 6 Gigabit Serial ATA
    disk5s1 - EFI (MS-DOS FAT32) [EFI] 210 MB
    disk5s2 - L**********p (Journaled HFS+) 4.00 TB (955.70 GB used)

Mounted Volumes:
  disk1s1 - M*********************s [APFS Virtual drive]
    1.00 TB (Shared - 347.83 GB used, 647.05 GB available, 640.34 GB free)
    APFS
    Mount point: /System/Volumes/Data
    Encrypted

  disk1s4 - VM [APFS VM]
    1.00 TB (Shared - 20 KB used, 640.34 GB free)
    APFS
    Mount point: /private/var/vm
    Encrypted

  disk1s5 - Macintosh HD
    1.00 TB (Shared - 11.25 GB used, 647.05 GB available, 640.34 GB free)
    APFS
    Mount point: /
    Encrypted
    Read-only: Yes

  disk5s2 - L**********p
    4.00 TB (955.70 GB used, 3.04 TB free)
    Journaled HFS+
    Mount point: /Volumes/L**********p

Network:
  Interface en0: Ethernet
  Interface en1: Wi-Fi
   
  Interface en7: Bluetooth PAN
  Interface bridge0: Thunderbolt Bridge

System Software:
  macOS Catalina 10.15.7 (19H2)
  Time since boot: Less than an hour

Notifications:
  Notifications not available without Full Drive Access.

Security:
  Gatekeeper: Enabled
  System Integrity Protection: Enabled

  Antivirus software: Apple and Malwarebytes

32-bit Applications:
  11 32-bit apps

Kernel Extensions:
  /Library/Extensions
    DymoUsbPrinterClassDriver.kext (1.1 - SDK 10.14)

System Launch Agents:
  [Not Loaded]  15 Apple tasks
  [Loaded]  169 Apple tasks
  [Running]  129 Apple tasks

System Launch Daemons:
  [Not Loaded]  35 Apple tasks
  [Loaded]  183 Apple tasks
  [Running]  119 Apple tasks

Launch Agents:
  [Not Loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2019-08-27)
  [Other] com.adobe.ARMDCHelper.cc24aef4a1b90ed56a725c38014c95072f92651fb65e1bf9c8e43c37a23d420d.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2020-08-10)
  [Loaded] com.adobe.AdobeCreativeCloud.plist (Adobe Inc. - installed 2020-09-22)
  [Running] com.adobe.GC.AGM.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2020-07-22)
  [Not Loaded] com.adobe.GC.Invoker-1.0.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2020-07-22)
  [Loaded] com.adobe.ccxprocess.plist (Apple - installed 2020-09-22)
  [Running] com.dymo.dls.webservice.plist (Sanford, L.P. - installed 2019-12-05)
  [Running] com.malwarebytes.mbam.frontend.agent.plist (Malwarebytes Corporation - installed 2020-07-15)
  [Loaded] com.microsoft.OneDriveStandaloneUpdater.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-09-18)
  [Loaded] com.microsoft.update.agent.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-09-17)

Launch Daemons:
  [Loaded] com.adobe.ARMDC.Communicator.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2020-07-15)
  [Loaded] com.adobe.ARMDC.SMJobBlessHelper.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2020-07-15)
  [Running] com.adobe.acc.installer.v2.plist (Adobe Inc. - installed 2020-09-22)
  [Running] com.adobe.agsservice.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2020-07-22)
  [Loaded] com.apple.installer.osmessagetracing.plist (Apple - installed 2020-01-28)
  [Running] com.dymo.pnpd.plist (Sanford, L.P. - installed 2019-12-05)
  [Loaded] com.linotype.FontExplorerX.securityhelper.plist (Linotype GmbH - installed 2019-04-13)
  [Running] com.malwarebytes.mbam.rtprotection.daemon.plist (Malwarebytes Corporation - installed 2020-08-05)
  [Running] com.malwarebytes.mbam.settings.daemon.plist (Malwarebytes Corporation - installed 2020-07-15)
  [Loaded] com.microsoft.OneDriveStandaloneUpdaterDaemon.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-09-18)
  [Loaded] com.microsoft.OneDriveUpdaterDaemon.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-09-18)
  [Loaded] com.microsoft.autoupdate.helper.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-09-17)
  [Loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensingV2.helper.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2019-09-09)

User Login Items:
  [Not Loaded] Launcher Disabler (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-09-18)
    Modern Login Item
    /Applications/OneDrive.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/Launcher Disabler.app

  [Not Loaded] OneDrive Launcher (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-09-18)
    Modern Login Item
    /Applications/OneDrive.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/OneDrive Launcher.app

  [Not Loaded] StartUpHelper (Spotify - installed 2020-01-08)
    Modern Login Item
    /Applications/Spotify.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/StartUpHelper.app

  [Not Loaded] HP Device Monitor (HP Inc. - installed 2019-04-12)
    Modern Login Item
    /Library/Printers/hp/Frameworks/HPDeviceMonitoring.framework/Versions/1.0/Helpers/HP Device Monitor Manager.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/HP Device Monitor.app

  [Not Loaded] HP Product Research (HP Inc. - installed 2019-04-12)
    Modern Login Item
    /Library/Printers/hp/Utilities/HPPU Plugins/ProductImprovementStudy.hptask/Contents/Helpers/HP Product Research Manager.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/HP Product Research.app

Internet Plug-ins:
  AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: 17.012.20098 (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2020-09-26)
  AdobePDFViewer: 20.012.20048 (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2020-09-26)
  DYMO NPAPI Addin: 1.0 (Sanford, L.P. - installed 2020-09-12)
  DYMO Safari Addin:  (Sanford, L.P. - installed 2020-09-12)
  AdobeAAMDetect: 3.0.0.0 (Adobe Inc. - installed 2020-09-22)

User Internet Plug-ins:
  User Internet Plug-ins need Full Drive Access

User Audio Plug-ins:
  User Audio Plug-ins need Full Drive Access

User iTunes Plug-ins:
  User iTunes Plug-ins need Full Drive Access

Backup:
  Time Machine information not available without Full Drive Access.
  2 local snapshots
  Oldest local snapshot: 2020-09-29 19:38:46
  Last local snapshot: 2020-09-29 19:48:52

Performance:
  System Load: 22.53 (1 min ago) 28.82 (5 min ago) 18.59 (15 min ago)
  Nominal I/O speed: 23.66 MB/s
  File system: 28.12 seconds
  Write speed: 3203 MB/s
  Read speed: 2528 MB/s

CPU Usage Snapshot:
  Type Overall
  System: 36 %
  User: 46 %
  Idle: 19 %

Top Processes Snapshot by CPU:
  Process (count) CPU (Source - Location)
  accountsd 621.16 % (Apple)
  suggestd 176.30 % (Apple)
  Other processes 118.58 % (?)
  secd 48.05 % (Apple)
  commerce 44.19 % (Apple)

Top Processes Snapshot by Memory:
  Process (count) RAM usage (Source - Location)
  suggestd 4.17 GB (Apple)
  accountsd 1.29 GB (Apple)
  EtreCheck 664 MB (App Store)
  FontExplorer X Pro 444 MB (Linotype GmbH)
  appstoreagent 361 MB (Apple)

Top Processes Snapshot by Network Use:
  Process (count) Input / Output (Source - Location)
  Other processes 131 MB / 2 MB (?)
  routined 0 B / 0 B (Apple)
  Script Menu 0 B / 0 B (Apple)
  homed 0 B / 0 B (Apple)
  backgroundtaskmanagementagent 0 B / 0 B (Apple)

Virtual Memory Information:
  Physical RAM: 32 GB

  Free RAM: 4.10 GB
  Used RAM: 15.93 GB
  Cached files: 11.97 GB

  Available RAM: 16.07 GB
  Swap Used: 0 B

Software Installs (past 30 days):
  Install Date Name (Version)
  2020-09-12 DYMO Label v.8
  2020-09-12 Microsoft PowerPoint
  2020-09-12 Microsoft OneNote
  2020-09-12 Microsoft Outlook
  2020-09-12 Microsoft Excel
  2020-09-12 Microsoft Word
  2020-09-17 Microsoft AutoUpdate
  2020-09-17 Safari (14.0)
  2020-09-18 XProtectPlistConfigData (2131)
  2020-09-24 Numbers (10.0)
  2020-09-24 Pages (10.0)
  2020-09-24 Keynote (10.0)
  2020-09-26 Adobe Acrobat DC (20.012.20048)
  2020-09-26 EtreCheck (5.6.1)
  2020-09-26 iMovie (10.1.16)
  2020-09-29 macOS Catalina 10.15.7-update
  2020-09-29 MRTConfigData (1.66)

Diagnostics Information (past 7-30 days):
  Directory /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports is not accessible.
  Enable Full Drive Access to see more information.

End of report
antw: iMac Pro zeer sloom !
29 september 2020 - 20:47    reactie #1
geplaatst door: Feek
Ik had dit zojuist ook  :woot: met mijn MacBook Pro!
Ik zie accountsd 621.16 % (Apple), Je ventilatoren moeten ook wel loeien.....


Diverse herstarts hadden geen effect, ook save boot niet.
Heeft blijkbaar te maken met iCloud. Bij mijn heeft zojuist het volgende geholpen:
- Logout uit iCloud
- zet mac uit
- save boot (shift ingedrukt houden tijdens opstarten om caches te legen)
- herstart met VRAM reset (Command-Option-P-R ingedrukt, twee keer apple logo)
- Herstart.
- opnieuw inloggen,

Er zijn meer mensen met het probleem.

antw: iMac Pro zeer sloom !
29 september 2020 - 20:50    reactie #2
geplaatst door: McHenri
Ventilatoren draaien onhoorbaar.  Dus hetzelfde dan anders.

Ik ga uw werkwijze morgen proberen.
antw: iMac Pro zeer sloom !
29 september 2020 - 20:54    reactie #3
geplaatst door: boiing
Er zijn meer mensen met het probleem.
Ja klopt Feek, ik ben het ook tegen gekomen. In- en uitloggen in iCloud schijnt te helpen. 'Dingetje' van de 10.15.7 update die je zo te zien vandaag geïnstalleerd hebt McHenri.
antw: iMac Pro zeer sloom !
29 september 2020 - 22:15    reactie #4
geplaatst door: MacMiep
"11 32-bit apps" Beetje opschonen zou ook geen kwaad kunnen, trouwens...
Al meer dan 20 jaar beheert Miep de MacMiepMacCursus op macmiep.nl & op macostutorial.com in het Engels en Duits!
antw: iMac Pro zeer sloom !
29 september 2020 - 23:08    reactie #5
geplaatst door: McHenri
"11 32-bit apps" Beetje opschonen zou ook geen kwaad kunnen, trouwens...
Die werken wellicht toch niet meer?
antw: iMac Pro zeer sloom !
29 september 2020 - 23:13    reactie #6
geplaatst door: adb1973
Enige definitieve oplossing lijkt vooralsnog om de combo update te draaien van 10.15.7
Arjan is Applefreak was TV-maker en journalist, nu is ie voorlichter. Hij amateurt graag met een fototoestel. En ZZPt soms als filmpjesmaker.
antw: iMac Pro zeer sloom !
30 september 2020 - 06:59    reactie #7
geplaatst door: Feek
@adb1973, vrees van niet, want ik doe altijd een combo-update bij een nieuwe release van het OS.

Tenzij er naderhand (nog) iets fout is gegaan.

Tot nu toe was mijn eerder voorgestelde lijst voldoende!
antw: iMac Pro zeer sloom !
30 september 2020 - 07:21    reactie #8
geplaatst door: puk1980
De root-cause schijnt te zijn dat er een aantal Apple iCloud servers uitlagen gisteren.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24634811
Google Adsense: just say NO!
antw: iMac Pro zeer sloom !
30 september 2020 - 08:10    reactie #9
geplaatst door: McHenri
Ik heb eigenlijk nog geen actie ondernomen en heb de indruk dat het beter is.

Hier de EtreCheck van deze morgen :

EtreCheck version: 5.6.1 (5217)
Report generated: 2020-09-30 08:05:38
Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com
Runtime: 1:36
Performance: Excellent
Sandbox: Enabled
Full drive access: Disabled

Problem: Beachballing

Major Issues:
  Anything that appears on this list needs immediate attention.
  Runaway process - A process is using a large percentage of your CPU.

Minor Issues:
  These issues do not need immediate attention but they may indicate future problems or opportunities for improvement.
  System modifications - There are a large number of system modifications running in the background.
  32-bit Apps - This computer has 32-bits apps will not work on current versions of the operating system.
  Limited drive access - More information may be available with Full Drive Access.
  Kernel extensions present - This computer has kernel extensions that may not work in the future.

Hardware Information:
  iMac Pro (2017)
  iMac Pro Model: iMacPro1,1
  3,2 GHz 8-Core Intel Xeon W (W-2140B) CPU: 8-core
  32 RAM - Not upgradeable

Video Information:
  Radeon Pro Vega 56 - VRAM: 8 GB
    iMac (built-in) 5120 x 2880

Drives:
  disk0 - APPLE SSD AP1024M 1.00 TB (Solid State - TRIM: Yes)
  Internal PCI-Express 8.0 GT/s x4 NVM Express
    disk0s1 - EFI [EFI] 315 MB
    disk0s2 [APFS Container] 1.00 TB
      disk1 [APFS Virtual drive] 1.00 TB (Shared by 5 volumes)
        disk1s1 - M*********************s (APFS) [APFS Virtual drive] (Shared - 347.81 GB used)
        disk1s2 - Preboot (APFS) [APFS Preboot] (Shared)
        disk1s3 - Recovery (APFS) [Recovery] (Shared - 529 MB used)
        disk1s4 - VM (APFS) [APFS VM] (Shared - 20 KB used)
        disk1s5 - Macintosh HD (APFS) (Shared - 11.25 GB used)

  disk2 - SanDisk SSD U100 256GB 256.06 GB (Solid State - TRIM: No)
  External SATA
    disk2s1 - EFI (MS-DOS FAT32) [EFI] 210 MB
    disk2s2 255.72 GB
    disk2s3 - Boot OS X (Journaled HFS+) 134 MB

  disk3 - SanDisk SSD U100 256GB 256.06 GB (Solid State - TRIM: No)
  External Thunderbolt 6 Gigabit Serial ATA
    disk3s1 - EFI (MS-DOS FAT32) [EFI] 210 MB
    disk3s2 255.72 GB
    disk3s3 - Boot OS X (Journaled HFS+) 134 MB

  disk4 - SanDisk SSD U100 256GB 511.43 GB (Solid State - TRIM: No)
  External Thunderbolt 6 Gigabit Serial ATA

  disk5 - ST4000NE0025-2EW107 4.00 TB (Mechanical - 7200 RPM)
  External Thunderbolt 6 Gigabit Serial ATA
    disk5s1 - EFI (MS-DOS FAT32) [EFI] 210 MB
    disk5s2 - L**********p (Journaled HFS+) 4.00 TB (955.74 GB used)

Mounted Volumes:
  disk1s1 - M*********************s [APFS Virtual drive]
    1.00 TB (Shared - 347.81 GB used, 654.05 GB available, 640.36 GB free)
    APFS
    Mount point: /System/Volumes/Data
    Encrypted

  disk1s3 - Recovery [Recovery]
    1.00 TB (Shared - 529 MB used, 640.36 GB free)
    APFS
    Mount point: /Volumes/Recovery

  disk1s4 - VM [APFS VM]
    1.00 TB (Shared - 20 KB used, 640.36 GB free)
    APFS
    Mount point: /private/var/vm
    Encrypted

  disk1s5 - Macintosh HD
    1.00 TB (Shared - 11.25 GB used, 654.05 GB available, 640.36 GB free)
    APFS
    Mount point: /
    Encrypted
    Read-only: Yes

  disk5s2 - L**********p
    4.00 TB (955.74 GB used, 3.04 TB free)
    Journaled HFS+
    Mount point: /Volumes/L**********p

Network:
  Interface en0: Ethernet
  Interface en1: Wi-Fi
   
  Interface en7: Bluetooth PAN
  Interface bridge0: Thunderbolt Bridge

System Software:
  macOS Catalina 10.15.7 (19H2)
  Time since boot: Less than an hour

Notifications:
  Notifications not available without Full Drive Access.

Security:
  Gatekeeper: Enabled
  System Integrity Protection: Enabled

  Antivirus software: Apple and Malwarebytes

32-bit Applications:
  11 32-bit apps

Kernel Extensions:
  /Library/Extensions
    DymoUsbPrinterClassDriver.kext (1.1 - SDK 10.14)

System Launch Agents:
  [Not Loaded]  15 Apple tasks
  [Loaded]  167 Apple tasks
  [Running]  131 Apple tasks

System Launch Daemons:
  [Not Loaded]  35 Apple tasks
  [Loaded]  174 Apple tasks
  [Running]  128 Apple tasks

Launch Agents:
  [Not Loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2019-08-27)
  [Other] com.adobe.ARMDCHelper.cc24aef4a1b90ed56a725c38014c95072f92651fb65e1bf9c8e43c37a23d420d.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2020-08-10)
  [Running] com.adobe.AdobeCreativeCloud.plist (Adobe Inc. - installed 2020-09-22)
  [Running] com.adobe.GC.AGM.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2020-07-22)
  [Not Loaded] com.adobe.GC.Invoker-1.0.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2020-07-22)
  [Loaded] com.adobe.ccxprocess.plist (Apple - installed 2020-09-22)
  [Running] com.dymo.dls.webservice.plist (Sanford, L.P. - installed 2019-12-05)
  [Running] com.malwarebytes.mbam.frontend.agent.plist (Malwarebytes Corporation - installed 2020-07-15)
  [Loaded] com.microsoft.OneDriveStandaloneUpdater.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-09-18)
  [Running] com.microsoft.update.agent.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-09-17)

Launch Daemons:
  [Loaded] com.adobe.ARMDC.Communicator.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2020-07-15)
  [Loaded] com.adobe.ARMDC.SMJobBlessHelper.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2020-07-15)
  [Running] com.adobe.acc.installer.v2.plist (Adobe Inc. - installed 2020-09-22)
  [Running] com.adobe.agsservice.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2020-07-22)
  [Loaded] com.apple.installer.osmessagetracing.plist (Apple - installed 2020-01-28)
  [Running] com.dymo.pnpd.plist (Sanford, L.P. - installed 2019-12-05)
  [Loaded] com.linotype.FontExplorerX.securityhelper.plist (Linotype GmbH - installed 2019-04-13)
  [Running] com.malwarebytes.mbam.rtprotection.daemon.plist (Malwarebytes Corporation - installed 2020-08-05)
  [Running] com.malwarebytes.mbam.settings.daemon.plist (Malwarebytes Corporation - installed 2020-07-15)
  [Loaded] com.microsoft.OneDriveStandaloneUpdaterDaemon.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-09-18)
  [Loaded] com.microsoft.OneDriveUpdaterDaemon.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-09-18)
  [Loaded] com.microsoft.autoupdate.helper.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-09-17)
  [Loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensingV2.helper.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2019-09-09)

User Launch Agents:
  [Loaded] com.adobe.GC.Invoker-1.0.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2019-04-13)

User Login Items:
  [Not Loaded] Launcher Disabler (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-09-18)
    Modern Login Item
    /Applications/OneDrive.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/Launcher Disabler.app

  [Not Loaded] OneDrive Launcher (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-09-18)
    Modern Login Item
    /Applications/OneDrive.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/OneDrive Launcher.app

  [Not Loaded] StartUpHelper (Spotify - installed 2020-01-08)
    Modern Login Item
    /Applications/Spotify.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/StartUpHelper.app

  [Not Loaded] HP Device Monitor (HP Inc. - installed 2019-04-12)
    Modern Login Item
    /Library/Printers/hp/Frameworks/HPDeviceMonitoring.framework/Versions/1.0/Helpers/HP Device Monitor Manager.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/HP Device Monitor.app

  [Not Loaded] HP Product Research (HP Inc. - installed 2019-04-12)
    Modern Login Item
    /Library/Printers/hp/Utilities/HPPU Plugins/ProductImprovementStudy.hptask/Contents/Helpers/HP Product Research Manager.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/HP Product Research.app

Internet Plug-ins:
  AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: 17.012.20098 (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2020-09-26)
  AdobePDFViewer: 20.012.20048 (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2020-09-26)
  DYMO NPAPI Addin: 1.0 (Sanford, L.P. - installed 2020-09-12)
  DYMO Safari Addin:  (Sanford, L.P. - installed 2020-09-12)
  AdobeAAMDetect: 3.0.0.0 (Adobe Inc. - installed 2020-09-22)

User Internet Plug-ins:
  User Internet Plug-ins need Full Drive Access

User Audio Plug-ins:
  User Audio Plug-ins need Full Drive Access

User iTunes Plug-ins:
  User iTunes Plug-ins need Full Drive Access

Backup:
  Time Machine information not available without Full Drive Access.
  2 local snapshots
  Oldest local snapshot: 2020-09-29 19:38:46
  Last local snapshot: 2020-09-30 07:58:33

Performance:
  System Load: 1.84 (1 min ago) 1.68 (5 min ago) 1.02 (15 min ago)
  Nominal I/O speed: 11.89 MB/s
  File system: 16.15 seconds
  Write speed: 2331 MB/s
  Read speed: 2539 MB/s

CPU Usage Snapshot:
  Type Overall
  System: 3 %
  User: 5 %
  Idle: 92 %

Top Processes Snapshot by CPU:
  Process (count) CPU (Source - Location)
  Other processes 107.55 % (?)
  EtreCheck 17.19 % (App Store)
  Finder 0.73 % (Apple)
  identityservicesd 0.12 % (Apple)
  Core Sync 0.11 % (Adobe Inc.)

Top Processes Snapshot by Memory:
  Process (count) RAM usage (Source - Location)
  EtreCheck 645 MB (App Store)
  FontExplorer X Pro 452 MB (Linotype GmbH)
  Dock 227 MB (Apple)
  Creative Cloud 139 MB (Adobe Inc.)
  AMPLibraryAgent 120 MB (Apple)

Top Processes Snapshot by Network Use:
  Process (count) Input / Output (Source - Location)
  Other processes 141 KB / 2 MB (?)
  rapportd 3 KB / 27 KB (Apple)
  assistantd 6 KB / 4 KB (Apple)
  routined 0 B / 0 B (Apple)
  Script Menu 0 B / 0 B (Apple)

Virtual Memory Information:
  Physical RAM: 32 GB

  Free RAM: 17.24 GB
  Used RAM: 8.24 GB
  Cached files: 6.52 GB

  Available RAM: 23.76 GB
  Swap Used: 0 B

Software Installs (past 30 days):
  Install Date Name (Version)
  2020-09-12 DYMO Label v.8
  2020-09-12 Microsoft PowerPoint
  2020-09-12 Microsoft OneNote
  2020-09-12 Microsoft Outlook
  2020-09-12 Microsoft Excel
  2020-09-12 Microsoft Word
  2020-09-17 Microsoft AutoUpdate
  2020-09-17 Safari (14.0)
  2020-09-18 XProtectPlistConfigData (2131)
  2020-09-24 Numbers (10.0)
  2020-09-24 Pages (10.0)
  2020-09-24 Keynote (10.0)
  2020-09-26 Adobe Acrobat DC (20.012.20048)
  2020-09-26 EtreCheck (5.6.1)
  2020-09-26 iMovie (10.1.16)
  2020-09-29 macOS Catalina 10.15.7-update
  2020-09-29 MRTConfigData (1.66)

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antw: iMac Pro zeer sloom !
30 september 2020 - 11:52    reactie #10
geplaatst door: McHenri
"11 32-bit apps" Beetje opschonen zou ook geen kwaad kunnen, trouwens...

Vreemd, ik zie geen verouderde software in de systeemvoorkeuren, maar wel in EtreCheck.

Hoe zou dat komen ?

Schermafbeelding 2020-09-30 om 11.48.12.jpgiMac Pro zeer sloom !


antw: iMac Pro zeer sloom !
30 september 2020 - 11:58    reactie #11
geplaatst door: boiing
Omdat 32-bit apps in Catalina niet meer kunnen werken staat er ook niks in die lijst. EtreCheck ziet waarschijnlijk nog ergens resten of apps staan, relevant is dat niet meer. Verwijderen -zoals MacMiep zegt - zal dan ook geen verschil maken.

Er zijn wel gebruikers die ook in Catalina vermeldingen zien in die lijst. Dat komt omdat het dan overgenomen is uit Mojave of eerder, toen deze lijst steeds geüpdatet werd. Aan de 'Laatst gebruikt' datum kolom kun je in dat geval zien dat dat vóór Catalina was.
antw: iMac Pro zeer sloom !
1 oktober 2020 - 22:28    reactie #12
geplaatst door: McHenri
Ik had dit zojuist ook  :woot: met mijn MacBook Pro!
Ik zie accountsd 621.16 % (Apple), Je ventilatoren moeten ook wel loeien.....


Diverse herstarts hadden geen effect, ook save boot niet.
Heeft blijkbaar te maken met iCloud. Bij mijn heeft zojuist het volgende geholpen:
- Logout uit iCloud
- zet mac uit
- save boot (shift ingedrukt houden tijdens opstarten om caches te legen)
- herstart met VRAM reset (Command-Option-P-R ingedrukt, twee keer apple logo)
- Herstart.
- opnieuw inloggen,

Er zijn meer mensen met het probleem.

Vanavond weer een trage iMac gehad.

Bovenstaande gedaan, lijkt nu weer oké. Hopelijk blijft het nu zo. Niet veel zin om in de eindfase van Catalina nog een clean install te doen.
antw: iMac Pro zeer sloom !
2 oktober 2020 - 00:36    reactie #13
geplaatst door: MacMiep
"Niet veel zin om in de eindfase van Catalina nog een clean install te doen."

Als je problemen blijft houden, lijkt me dat toch de beste oplossing.
Al meer dan 20 jaar beheert Miep de MacMiepMacCursus op macmiep.nl & op macostutorial.com in het Engels en Duits!
antw: iMac Pro zeer sloom !
3 oktober 2020 - 08:52    reactie #14
geplaatst door: McHenri
Blijkbaar nog steeds niet opgelost.

Top Processes Snapshot by CPU:
    Process (count) CPU (Source - Location)
    accountsd 465.87 % (Apple)
    Other processes 117.99 % (?)
    commerce 91.43 % (Apple)
    secd 33.10 % (Apple)
    EtreCheck 19.16 % (App Store)
antw: iMac Pro zeer sloom !
3 oktober 2020 - 08:54    reactie #15
geplaatst door: boiing
Zie ook hier McHenri:

https://www.macfreak.nl/nieuwsberichten/oplossingen-voor-mogelijke-vertragingen-na-de-10-15-7-update/

.. voor meer tips maar vooral Brinky (#16 en #17): blijkbaar helpt dit niet voor iedereen én is het probleem bekend bij Apple. Echte oplossing moet nog komen.
antw: iMac Pro zeer sloom !
24 oktober 2020 - 09:10    reactie #16
geplaatst door: McHenri
Probleem is blijkbaar vanzelf verdwenen.......

Ik snap het niet, ben me niet bewust een update geïnstalleerd te hebben met een fix.